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Has anyone found an upgrade for the steering gear box on these model years? I have a 2001 Excursion and had the steering gear box rebuilt at maybe !40K miles. Now that I'm at 240K miles I either need to have this one rebuilt or buy a new one. I'm leaning towards buying a new one but wondered if anyone has found a steering gear box that is beefier than factory that can take more abuse. It's a 2x4 and discussed my options with my parts manager at my local dealer. It appears the Ford Excursion, up until 2004, has the same steering gear box as the F-250 through F-550 for 2x4. The 4x4 part number is different. Not sure why really but it doesn't appear to be any beefier. If one would need to be beefier I would have thought the F-550 would have had it. So the million dollar question... Has anyone found a beefier/longer lasting steering gear box for these model year Excursions/F-250...F-550? Are any of the steering gear boxes for the newer trucks, say 2005-2010, any stronger/longer lasting and if they are are they able to be retrofitted to the older model years? I believe my steering gear box wear is due to my amount of towing. I would have to estimate that 93% of my driving is towing. Moderator- My apologies as i did not mean to post this in the 6.0L 'upgrades and aftermarket' Would you please tow this to the 1999-2007 Upgrades and Aftermarket - General ?  

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Hi Everyone I am looking for advice on whether to upgrade the suspension fork on my NCM Moscow Plus to an air fork, or upgrade to a new bike like the Specialized Vado 4.0? What would you recommend? My wrists and hands do not like the vibrations felt through the handlebars on the NCM Moscow Plus. I wonder about any long term damage this may cause to my wrists as I am having to shake my hands and wrists regularly while riding. I am often riding with no hands on the handlebars for the reason that the vibrations are uncomfortable. I am older (46 years) so I suspect that I am more sensitive to the vibrations as it never used to bother me in my younger years. Will a suspension upgrade help? Would changing out the handle bar help too? I ride everyday a mix of smooth and bumpy bike path, including grass sections. I ride the occasional forestry trails. I like the forward positioning of the NCM Moscow Plus but realise I am putting weight on my wrists which wont help. I wonder whether I should include spacers? On the other hand, the Specialized Vado 4.0 is an upright, forward position with a front suspension fork, covering the mix of riding that I do - would the Vado be better for me? I like the NCM Moscow Plus, it is cheap (inexpensive) and I dont worry about it getting stolen. Any advice? Thank you in advance.  

  • May 7, 2022

Hi - a couple of ideas for you that might help . I have the suntour suspension seatpost on my standard Moscow. I found it transformed the feel of the bike especially over rough surfaces . You can basically just sit on the seat and it takes the strain , you don’t have to use your legs / arms as suspension . In practice , I put a lot less of my weight on the handlebars and even the basic coil suspension fork works and feels a lot better . Second idea - a suspension handlebar stem ?  

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  • May 8, 2022
Moscow29 said: Hi - a couple of ideas for you that might help . I have the suntour suspension seatpost on my standard Moscow. I found it transformed the feel of the bike especially over rough surfaces . You can basically just sit on the seat and it takes the strain , you don’t have to use your legs / arms as suspension . In practice , I put a lot less of my weight on the handlebars and even the basic coil suspension fork works and feels a lot better . Second idea - a suspension handlebar stem ? Click to expand...

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mikeschn said: Test drive a Vado. Only you can tell if it's right for you... BTW, I really enjoy my Vado... Mike... Click to expand...

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We have 3 Moscow's in the family and last year I switched to a Giant Trance e-mtb and it's a different world. Similar to the Vado, the mid-drive along with a well designed controller changes everything. Power delivery is smooth, it's responsive to pedaling torque and just feels natural and much more comfortable. Nothing wrong with the Moscow, it's functional and gets you places cheaply, but a properly designed system is luxurious in comparison. Enjoy!  

  • Jun 21, 2022

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I'm a Specialized fan and like the Vado. The Vado and Moscow are two very different bikes. I definitely prefer Torque Sensor over Cadence (have had both). Let us know about your Vado test ride.  

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Vibration is probably caused by tires (knobby, offroad), I suggest upgrading to street tires. Will significantly reduce vibration.  

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If you already have a suspension fork on the Moscow Plus, going from spring to air is not going to make a meaningful difference with respect to hand pain. @jo12345 given the link you posted I am guessing you have already done your homework and figured out wrist angle has a lot to do with how aging or injured hands/wrists handle cycling. The Jones bars have been a lifesaver for me. Recently I tried doing without them on my most recent build and built the bike with a very nice set of titanium bars I keep trying to use (hit by a car in 2016 and my wrists have never been the same; Jones bars with their 45-degree sweep solve the problem). I recently gave up on the flat bar and - before I went to the Jones bars again (I have 5 bikes with them and another set of 660's I could plug right in) I bought a cheap set of bars from Ergotec they call the Space bar. Had to get it from BikeInn.com in Spain as they are seldom available here in the States. Lower profile and more compact than Jones bars, which suited the bike which is itself very compact. They work great for me but you cannot go wrong with a set of Jones H bars. Bottom line: Do the bars. Also look at hand grips that support your palm. Like the ones from Ergon (different company than Ergotec). Between the sweep and the wider palm support, chances are your not-uncommon problem will be largely solved.  

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Good advice from m@Robertson above. I noticed a big improvement in wrist comfort by adding the Jones H bars. I found additional improvement by adding the Redshift suspension stem and a quality pair of gel padded gloves.  

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6zfshdb said: I found additional improvement by adding the Redshift suspension stem Click to expand...
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m@Robertson said: If you already have a suspension fork on the Moscow Plus, going from spring to air is not going to make a meaningful difference with respect to hand pain. @jo12345 given the link you posted I am guessing you have already done your homework and figured out wrist angle has a lot to do with how aging or injured hands/wrists handle cycling. The Jones bars have been a lifesaver for me. Recently I tried doing without them on my most recent build and built the bike with a very nice set of titanium bars I keep trying to use (hit by a car in 2016 and my wrists have never been the same; Jones bars with their 45-degree sweep solve the problem). I recently gave up on the flat bar and - before I went to the Jones bars again (I have 5 bikes with them and another set of 660's I could plug right in) I bought a cheap set of bars from Ergotec they call the Space bar. Had to get it from BikeInn.com in Spain as they are seldom available here in the States. Lower profile and more compact than Jones bars, which suited the bike which is itself very compact. They work great for me but you cannot go wrong with a set of Jones H bars. Bottom line: Do the bars. Also look at hand grips that support your palm. Like the ones from Ergon (different company than Ergotec). Between the sweep and the wider palm support, chances are your not-uncommon problem will be largely solved. Click to expand...
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